Well, Ryan.... thinking about it as I drive...

Ryan asked me today if the Quaker process could work between nations, both of us seem to be in some doubt on this, right now, as yet, and Ryan I have given it thought.

Nations and people seem to work the same way. We never go to war saying, I want to dominate your trade and take your raw materials, rather we say, you people did this to us, and therefore we are going to beat you down... and by the way, after the fact, no one will notice, we get our way about trade and raw materials...

I think it comes down to wanting one's way without guilt or compromise. Nations and people wish to have things their way, to be able to break promises and serve their own interests, and not feel guilty for doing so, and so, the other party must be vilified, and in so doing, the idea of clearness is not an option, self reflection does not serve that process well at all.

I keep looking for a logical solution to conflict, even in our Quaker meeting, though, few want logic and truth, they want their own way without guilt, and logic and unity be damned.
Quick answer after a long drive from ALbany...